Nov. 14th, 2004
OK, one more post
Nov. 14th, 2004 10:17 pmFrom forwarded email from friends:
Who has served his/her country?
There is an Illinois State Senator named Howard Carroll who represents the Chicago area. He compiled the following lists and would like them circulated.
I know, I know... what does it matter now??? Even though the election is over this is an interesting list!
SERVICE IN THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES:
DEMOCRATS
* Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
* David Bonior: Staff Sergeant, Air Force, 1968-72.
* Tom Daschle: First Lieutenant, Air Force Strategic Air Command, 1969-72.
* Al Gore: Enlisted August 1969, sent to Vietnam January 1971 as an Army journalist in the 20th Engineer Brigade.
* Bob Kerrey: [lost leg] Lieutenant j.g., Navy, 1966-69; Medal of Honor in Vietnam.
* Daniel Inouye: Army, 1943-47; Medal of Honor in Second World War.
* John Kerry: Lieutenant, Navy, 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, Purple Hearts in Vietnam.
* Charles Rangel: Staff Sergeant, Army, 1948-52; Bronze Star in Korea.
* Max Cleland: [lost arm and both legs] Captain, Army, 1965-68; Silver Star and Bronze Star in Vietnam.
* Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.
* Tom Harkin: Lieutenant, Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
* Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve, 1979-91.
* Fritz Hollings: Army officer in Second World War, Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.
* Leonard Boswell: Lieutenant Colonel, Army, 1956-76; Distinguished Flying Crosses, Bronze Stars and Soldier's Medal in Vietnam.
* Pete Peterson: Captain, Air Force, Prisioner of War; Purple Heart, Silver Star, and Legion of Merit.
* Mike Thompson: Staff Sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.
* Bill McBride Candidate for Florida Governor): Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V.
* Gray Davis: Captain, Army, Bronze Star in Vietnam.
* Pete Stark: Air Force, 1955-57.
* Chuck Robb: Served in Vietnam.
* Howell Heflin: Recipient of Silver Star.
* George McGovern: Silver Star and Distinguished Flying Cross during Second World War.
* Bill Clinton: Did not serve due to student deferments. Entered draft lottery but received #311.
* Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.
* Walter Mondale: Army, 1951-1953
* John Glenn: Second World War and Korea; six Distinguished Flying Crosses and Air Medal with 18 Clusters.
* Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian Jewish underground in Second World War. (Saved by Raoul Wallenberg.)
REPUBLICANS
* Dick Cheney: Did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage. When questioned recently, about his not having served in Vietnam, he said he had "other priorities."
* Dennis Hastert: Did not serve.
* Tom Delay: Did not serve.
* Roy Blunt: Did not serve.
* Bill Frist: Did not serve.
* Mitch McConnell: Did not serve.
* Rick Santorum: not serve.
* Trent Lott: Did not serve.
* John Ashcroft: Did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business courses.
* Jeb Bush: Did not serve.
* Karl Rove: Did not serve.
* Saxby Chambliss: Did not serve due to "bad knee." This is the man who attacked Max Cleland's patriotism.
* Paul Wolfowitz: Did not serve.
* Vin Weber: Did not serve.
* Richard Perle: Did not serve.
* Douglas Feith: Did not serve.
* Eliot Abrams: Did not serve.
* Richard Shelby: Did not serve.
* Jon Kyl: Did not serve.
* Tim Hutchison: Did not serve.
* Christopher Cox: Did not serve.
* Newt Gingrich: Did not serve.
* Don Rumsfeld: Served in Navy, 1954-57, as a flight instructor.
* George W. Bush: Failed to complete his six-year National Guard obligation; got reassigned from Texas National Guard to Alabama National Guard so that he could campaign for family friend running
for U.S. Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam; disappeared from duty.
* Ronald Reagan: Due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role making movies.
* "B-1" Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted -- after fighting was over in Korea.
* Phil Gramm: Did not serve.
* John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.
* Dana Rohrabacher: Did not serve.
* John M. McHugh: Did not serve.
* J. C. Watts: Did not serve.
* Jack Kemp: Did not serve due to a "knee problem," though continued in NFL for eight years.
* Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.
* Rudy Giuliani: Did not serve.
* George Pataki: Did not serve.
* Spencer Abraham: Did not serve.
* John Engler: Did not serve.
* Lindsey Graham: Lawyer in National Guard.
* Arnold Schwarzenegger: Absent Without Leave from Austrian army base.
PUNDITS AND PREACHERS
* Sean Hannity: Did not serve.
* Rush Limbaugh: Did not serve (4-F with a "pilonidal cyst.")
* Bill O'Reilly: Did not serve.
* Michael Savage: Did not serve.
* George Will: Did not serve.
* Chris Matthews: Did not serve.
* Paul Gigot: Did not serve.
* Bill Bennett: Did not serve.
* Pat Buchanan: Did not serve.
* John Wayne: Did not serve.
* Bill Kristol: Did not serve.
* Kenneth Starr: Did not serve.
* Antonin Scalia: Did not serve.
* Clarence Thomas: Did not serve.
* Ralph Reed: Did not serve.
* Michael Medved: Did not serve.
* Charlie Daniels: Did not serve.
* Ted Nugent: Did not serve.
Please keep this information circulating!
Who has served his/her country?
There is an Illinois State Senator named Howard Carroll who represents the Chicago area. He compiled the following lists and would like them circulated.
I know, I know... what does it matter now??? Even though the election is over this is an interesting list!
SERVICE IN THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES:
DEMOCRATS
* Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
* David Bonior: Staff Sergeant, Air Force, 1968-72.
* Tom Daschle: First Lieutenant, Air Force Strategic Air Command, 1969-72.
* Al Gore: Enlisted August 1969, sent to Vietnam January 1971 as an Army journalist in the 20th Engineer Brigade.
* Bob Kerrey: [lost leg] Lieutenant j.g., Navy, 1966-69; Medal of Honor in Vietnam.
* Daniel Inouye: Army, 1943-47; Medal of Honor in Second World War.
* John Kerry: Lieutenant, Navy, 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, Purple Hearts in Vietnam.
* Charles Rangel: Staff Sergeant, Army, 1948-52; Bronze Star in Korea.
* Max Cleland: [lost arm and both legs] Captain, Army, 1965-68; Silver Star and Bronze Star in Vietnam.
* Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.
* Tom Harkin: Lieutenant, Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
* Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve, 1979-91.
* Fritz Hollings: Army officer in Second World War, Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.
* Leonard Boswell: Lieutenant Colonel, Army, 1956-76; Distinguished Flying Crosses, Bronze Stars and Soldier's Medal in Vietnam.
* Pete Peterson: Captain, Air Force, Prisioner of War; Purple Heart, Silver Star, and Legion of Merit.
* Mike Thompson: Staff Sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.
* Bill McBride Candidate for Florida Governor): Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V.
* Gray Davis: Captain, Army, Bronze Star in Vietnam.
* Pete Stark: Air Force, 1955-57.
* Chuck Robb: Served in Vietnam.
* Howell Heflin: Recipient of Silver Star.
* George McGovern: Silver Star and Distinguished Flying Cross during Second World War.
* Bill Clinton: Did not serve due to student deferments. Entered draft lottery but received #311.
* Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.
* Walter Mondale: Army, 1951-1953
* John Glenn: Second World War and Korea; six Distinguished Flying Crosses and Air Medal with 18 Clusters.
* Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian Jewish underground in Second World War. (Saved by Raoul Wallenberg.)
REPUBLICANS
* Dick Cheney: Did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage. When questioned recently, about his not having served in Vietnam, he said he had "other priorities."
* Dennis Hastert: Did not serve.
* Tom Delay: Did not serve.
* Roy Blunt: Did not serve.
* Bill Frist: Did not serve.
* Mitch McConnell: Did not serve.
* Rick Santorum: not serve.
* Trent Lott: Did not serve.
* John Ashcroft: Did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business courses.
* Jeb Bush: Did not serve.
* Karl Rove: Did not serve.
* Saxby Chambliss: Did not serve due to "bad knee." This is the man who attacked Max Cleland's patriotism.
* Paul Wolfowitz: Did not serve.
* Vin Weber: Did not serve.
* Richard Perle: Did not serve.
* Douglas Feith: Did not serve.
* Eliot Abrams: Did not serve.
* Richard Shelby: Did not serve.
* Jon Kyl: Did not serve.
* Tim Hutchison: Did not serve.
* Christopher Cox: Did not serve.
* Newt Gingrich: Did not serve.
* Don Rumsfeld: Served in Navy, 1954-57, as a flight instructor.
* George W. Bush: Failed to complete his six-year National Guard obligation; got reassigned from Texas National Guard to Alabama National Guard so that he could campaign for family friend running
for U.S. Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam; disappeared from duty.
* Ronald Reagan: Due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role making movies.
* "B-1" Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted -- after fighting was over in Korea.
* Phil Gramm: Did not serve.
* John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.
* Dana Rohrabacher: Did not serve.
* John M. McHugh: Did not serve.
* J. C. Watts: Did not serve.
* Jack Kemp: Did not serve due to a "knee problem," though continued in NFL for eight years.
* Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.
* Rudy Giuliani: Did not serve.
* George Pataki: Did not serve.
* Spencer Abraham: Did not serve.
* John Engler: Did not serve.
* Lindsey Graham: Lawyer in National Guard.
* Arnold Schwarzenegger: Absent Without Leave from Austrian army base.
PUNDITS AND PREACHERS
* Sean Hannity: Did not serve.
* Rush Limbaugh: Did not serve (4-F with a "pilonidal cyst.")
* Bill O'Reilly: Did not serve.
* Michael Savage: Did not serve.
* George Will: Did not serve.
* Chris Matthews: Did not serve.
* Paul Gigot: Did not serve.
* Bill Bennett: Did not serve.
* Pat Buchanan: Did not serve.
* John Wayne: Did not serve.
* Bill Kristol: Did not serve.
* Kenneth Starr: Did not serve.
* Antonin Scalia: Did not serve.
* Clarence Thomas: Did not serve.
* Ralph Reed: Did not serve.
* Michael Medved: Did not serve.
* Charlie Daniels: Did not serve.
* Ted Nugent: Did not serve.
Please keep this information circulating!